<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321089372587128676.post8297595596340665497..comments</id><updated>2010-07-12T23:26:22.431-04:00</updated><category term='Bill Ackman'/><category term='2009 distressed debt'/><category term='g'/><category term='tousa'/><category term='revolvers'/><category term='2011 distressed debt outlook'/><category term='credit agreements'/><category term='Third Avenue Credit'/><category term='distressed debt research'/><category term='value investing'/><category term='howard marks'/><category term='credit bidding'/><category term='Paulson'/><category term='emerging manager hedge fund series'/><category term='Michael Burry'/><category term='Lehman'/><category term='book recommendation'/><category term='Dynegy'/><category term='superinvestor'/><category term='WAMU'/><category term='CEDC'/><category term='distressed investing'/><category term='non-agency rmbs'/><category term='Pershing Square'/><category term='Warren Buffett'/><category term='equitable subordination'/><category term='EA'/><category term='distressed debt case study'/><category term='distressed debt advertisement'/><category term='q/a'/><category term='Linked In'/><category term='Distressed Debt Investors Club'/><category term='adequate protection'/><category term='2011 distressed debt market'/><category term='2010 distressed debt review'/><category term='NewPage'/><category term='abitibibowater'/><category term='value investing concepts'/><category term='high yield returns'/><category term='special situation stocks'/><category term='distressed debt'/><category term='atp'/><category term='liquidations'/><category term='Scion Capital'/><category term='tronox'/><category term='Legal - 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Part 2</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.distressed-debt-investing.com/feeds/8297595596340665497/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6321089372587128676/8297595596340665497/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.distressed-debt-investing.com/2009/08/wisdom-from-seth-klarman-part-2.html'/><author><name>Hunter</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>4</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321089372587128676.post-6970814427028576087</id><published>2010-06-04T07:20:51.012-04:00</published><updated>2010-06-04T07:20:51.012-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Really,   Hat’s off. Well done, as we know that “h...</title><content type='html'>Really,   Hat’s off. Well done, as we know that “hard work always pays off”, after a long struggle with sincere effort it’s done.  This action proof to be a win, win situation. This is a true art&lt;br /&gt;work, which will be a success story.&lt;br /&gt;===========================================&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://thefinancefirm.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Finance Firm&lt;/a&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6321089372587128676/8297595596340665497/comments/default/6970814427028576087'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6321089372587128676/8297595596340665497/comments/default/6970814427028576087'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.distressed-debt-investing.com/2009/08/wisdom-from-seth-klarman-part-2.html?showComment=1275650451012#c6970814427028576087' title=''/><author><name>luciyahelan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15330425111850856502</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.distressed-debt-investing.com/2009/08/wisdom-from-seth-klarman-part-2.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321089372587128676.post-8297595596340665497' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6321089372587128676/posts/default/8297595596340665497' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-507571722'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321089372587128676.post-1625294810738743836</id><published>2009-08-13T09:41:39.239-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-13T09:41:39.239-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6321089372587128676/8297595596340665497/comments/default/1625294810738743836'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6321089372587128676/8297595596340665497/comments/default/1625294810738743836'/><author><name>hyipinvestor</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15768877143891951676</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ntz466WNsmo/Sgj3_IlIuwI/AAAAAAAAAAM/ArOVIIPe_IU/S220/carlie-christine-medium1.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.distressed-debt-investing.com/2009/08/wisdom-from-seth-klarman-part-2.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321089372587128676.post-8297595596340665497' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6321089372587128676/posts/default/8297595596340665497' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1135423184'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321089372587128676.post-3737035015948891332</id><published>2009-08-05T15:32:51.531-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-05T15:32:51.531-04:00</updated><title type='text'>For those who are unfamiliar, the &lt;a href="http://...</title><content type='html'>For those who are unfamiliar, the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_criterion" rel="nofollow"&gt;Kelly criterion&lt;/a&gt; is a strategy relating to how much of your portfolio to allocate to any particular investment.  The Wikipedia article has links to the original paper, which was - interestingly - focused on improving communications for Bell Labs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The story is well told in the book &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Fortunes-Formula-Scientific-Betting-Casinos/dp/0809045990/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1249500492&amp;amp;sr=8-5" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fortune&amp;#39;s Formula: The Untold Story of the Scientific Betting System That Beat the Casinos and Wall Street&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6321089372587128676/8297595596340665497/comments/default/3737035015948891332'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6321089372587128676/8297595596340665497/comments/default/3737035015948891332'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.distressed-debt-investing.com/2009/08/wisdom-from-seth-klarman-part-2.html?showComment=1249500771531#c3737035015948891332' title=''/><author><name>Lawrence D. Loeb</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05600981191177652648</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.distressed-debt-investing.com/2009/08/wisdom-from-seth-klarman-part-2.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321089372587128676.post-8297595596340665497' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6321089372587128676/posts/default/8297595596340665497' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1398613121'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321089372587128676.post-6643541021679047981</id><published>2009-08-05T01:48:08.529-04:00</published><updated>2009-08-05T01:48:08.529-04:00</updated><title type='text'>While I have tremendous respect for Klarman and co...</title><content type='html'>While I have tremendous respect for Klarman and concur with you that his letters are a must read for any serious student of the markets, I think the Enron example you cite is not the best example of his wisdom.  A 15% position in a single name is a tremendous risk. While the Kelly Rule has its place, I don&amp;#39;t think any investor can ever get enough of an edge in a situation like Enron to make an outsized bets. Judges make mistakes and inconsistent decisions too often; not frequently, but too often for oversize bets, which makes big bets on litigation outcomes risky. The returns cited are hardly extraordinary for distressed. If the one position was the entire 15% of non performing and contributed 3.3% to NAV, then it generated just a 22% return; middling by distressed standards and not appropriate for what would have begun as a greater than 10% position. &lt;br /&gt;I don&amp;#39;t mean to take anything away from Seth Klarman, his letters or his returns, but simply make the point that this particular investment isn&amp;#39;t the examplar of why he is (rightly) held in such high regard.&lt;br /&gt;Thanks again for taking the time to post and discuss Klarman&amp;#39;s letters; its a good service to the investment community.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6321089372587128676/8297595596340665497/comments/default/6643541021679047981'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6321089372587128676/8297595596340665497/comments/default/6643541021679047981'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.distressed-debt-investing.com/2009/08/wisdom-from-seth-klarman-part-2.html?showComment=1249451288529#c6643541021679047981' title=''/><author><name>ronagt</name><uri>http://openid.aol.com/ronagt</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/openid16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.distressed-debt-investing.com/2009/08/wisdom-from-seth-klarman-part-2.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6321089372587128676.post-8297595596340665497' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6321089372587128676/posts/default/8297595596340665497' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1363145472'/></entry></feed>
